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Profile of a Style : Bashers

I make no claims to being exhaustive in this study of Bashers. There are managers who know more about the style, managers who have better Bashers, managers whose Bashers win more consistently. But this is a place to start.

I have the details of twenty-eight immortal Bashers under my hand here, Bashers who, good, bad, or indifferent, survived long enough to graduate and discover their favorites. In those favorites lie clues to how the Gladiatorial Commission expects Bashers to operate. This does not mean that Bashers HAVE to operate that way, and it can be fun to force a style to do the unexpected and take everyone by surprise, but this could be said to be "what comes naturally."

Favorite weapons. You will find that only weapons that may be received as favorites are ever described as "well-suited" to the style. For instance, an epee never occurs as a favorite weapon for a Basher, and any Basher who uses one will find he "is unsuited to his weapon" or "uses this weapon in an unorthodox style" at the top of his fight report. There is little, if anything (well, okay, surprise), to be gained from using a weapon unsuited to the style in question.

The eleven weapons suited to use by Bashers, and the minimum stats required for their best use (information courtesy of Pagan's Enchiridion), are:

 
Greataxe ST 13 SZ 5 WT 9 DF 11 Greatsword ST 15 SZ 9 WT 9 DF 11 Halberd ST 17 SZ 9 WT 9 DF 9 Large Shield ST 11 SZ 7 WT 5 DF 5 Mace ST 13 SZ any WT 3 DF 5 Maul ST 15 SZ 9 WT 5 DF 7 Medium Shield ST 9 SZ any WT 5 DF 5 Morningstar ST 13 SZ any WT 7 DF 13 Quarterstaff ST 11 SZ 9 WT 11 DF 11 Warflail ST 11 SZ any WT 7 DF 5 Warhammer ST 13 SZ any WT 5 DF 7

Assurnasirbanapal offers the following alternate requirements for some of these weapons:

 
Halberd ST 17 SZ 9 WT 9 DF 11 Large Shield ST 11 SZ 7 WT 3 DF 5 (not sure about size, but I believe wit is 3) Morningstar ST 13 SZ any WT 7 DF 11 Warflail ST 11 SZ any WT 5 DF 5

(I can see that some warriors in my future are going to have to test these weapons.)

Study this chart, and never make a Basher who doesn't have the stats to use at least one of the weapons well! I've made the mistake more than once (and more than once done it deliberately, but then, I'm perverse) of creating a warrior who is unable to use well any weapon to which his style is suited. This is enormously frustrating. Take my advice and DON'T DO IT.

You may notice that the Fist is not listed as a weapon suited to the Bashing attack. This is an example--one of the most glaring ones--of the fact that sometimes intuition and real-world experience are "not well suited" to Duelmasters. Two weapons not listed on this chart are the Broadsword and the Battleaxe. If you arm a Basher with one of these weapons, the fight report will inform you that your warrior is not well suited to the weapon or uses it in a marginally effective manner. A manager I consulted informs me that he has had good results anyway with the Broadsword and is still experimenting with the Battleaxe. So you CAN ignore the weapon suitability chart above, though I would not recommend doing it until you have enough experience to know what risks you're taking. And don't do it with a warrior who adds the disadvantage of having inappropriate stats for the weapon to the disadvantage of unsuited style.

As you can see from this list, the most important stat for a Basher, from the standpoint of weapon use, is Strength. A Basher who is dumb and on the clumsy side will find weapons he can use appropriately, provided he has the strength to lift them. This has led to the creation of a lot of dumb, clumsy Bashers. My own personal feeling--and I've run a lot of these depressing warriors--is that a dumb, clumsy Basher is doomed in the long run. And often very boring, as well. Boring is even worse than doomed.

 
My immortal Bashers, their relevant stats, and their favorite weapons: Madoc ST 11 SZ 11 WT 13 DF 9 Mace Wanda the Blonda ST 17 SZ 8 WT 9 DF 15 Warflail Kenda Teegue ST 19 SZ 7 WT 11 DF 11 Greatsword Al Kore ST 13 SZ 14 WT 11 DF 13 Quarterstaff Broken Nose ST 17 SZ 18 WT 11 DF 9 Quarterstaff Hogar ST 13 SZ 13 WT 21 DF 7 Maul Ski Mask ST 13 SZ 15 WT 15 DF 9 Maul Crabby Appleton ST 19 SZ 11 WT 13 DF 6 Warflail Lissette ST 14 SZ 9 WT 11 DF 15 Greataxe Velendeis ST 9 SZ 14 WT 13 DF 7 Maul Hoftalj ST 21 SZ 14 WT 11 DF 7 Mace Cadal ST 14 SZ 15 WT 15 DF 11 Mace Caramella ST 13 SZ 13 WT 14 DF 11 Quarterstaff Lulu ST 17 SZ 11 WT 15 DF 9 Morningstar Franklin ST 15 SZ 6 WT 5 DF 17 Morningstar Bam Bam ST 13 SZ 14 WT 11 DF 9 Medium Shield Dune ST 19 SZ 17 WT 4 DF 3 Halberd Old Maid ST 17 SZ 7 WT 15 DF 11 Halberd Pelis the True ST 13 SZ 9 WT 11 DF 15 Large Shield Joe ST 15 SZ 10 WT 15 DF 13 Medium Shield Claudius ST 19 SZ 13 WT 10 DF 7 Quarterstaff Ekkar ST 17 SZ 15 WT 13 DF 7 Mace Jomon ST 11 SZ 17 WT 11 DF 15 Greatsword Dijanna ST 17 SZ 12 WT 17 DF 7 Mace Khora the Small ST 15 SZ 9 WT 17 DF 11 Warhammer Sweet Jorja ST 13 SZ 13 WT 15 DF 7 Quarterstaff Tarok ST 7 SZ 18 WT 11 DF 9 Warflail Kelan ten Salth ST 14 SZ 15 WT 17 DF 11 Greatsword

You will notice that some of these warriors did not have the initial stats to use their favorite weapon efficiently. That's a little trick the Commission plays on us to keep us from getting too cocky. Only one of them (Tarok) was initially unable to use ANY of the bashing weapons well, and I trained up his strength early in his career. My personal favorites among the bashing weapons are the warhammer, the mace, and if the warrior has the wit for it, the quarterstaff, as these seem to me to produce the most interesting fights. If I'm going to train a warrior as a Basher, I try to make him able to use one or another of those weapons; it saves me a lot of stress.

Which brings up the question of Basher design. In almost all cases, the advice routinely given is to put the points on WT, WL, and DF in preference to other stats. But to use any of the weapons listed above, the warrior DOES NOT NEED a WT of more than 11, and depending on which version of the stats for Morningstar you accept, he doesn't need more than 11 or 13 in DF. Do not put points on these stats beyond the necessary.

ST: A Basher needs strength, and lots of it--who wants a Basher who "does little damage"? Besides, he needs a minimum strength of 9 for the least of his weapons, and that's a medium shield. Who wants to send a Basher out with a medium shield? Pile 'em on here.

CN: No. A Basher wins by attacking, not defending. He should be keeping his opponent too busy to fight back, and he should not have to worry about his hit points. Generally speaking, go with whatever you've been given on the roll-up. The time to experiment with the creation of a Scum Basher is later, after you have more experience.

SZ: You can't do anything about this, but a large size is not such a handicap for a Basher as for some of the more finicky styles. And it will increase the damage he can do--a Basher is all about doing damage.

WT: No more than is needed for the weapon you've chosen. If you have extra points after satisfying other requirements, sure, go ahead and put them on wit, but you can get a decent learning rate with a wit of 11 so why waste the points here? Besides, if he survives long enough, you can train up more wit later.

WL: I would always put points on will (unless it was 17+ already), but for me, that's reflex, not conscious planning. In theory, a Basher wins fights fast by attacking all out, and so he doesn't need will for the stick-to-it effect. But then... if he's a good Basher, wins a lot, graduates, and you want to keep on running him, a high will does make it easier to train up stats once you get around to it.

SP: I don't really have a feel for the effects of high or low speed on ANY style. I would cautiously suggest that if you can get the speed into the moderate range (8-12?) without sacrificing anything important, then do it. But if you can't, then don't.

DF: Enough to use the weapon of choice, or perhaps two or three weapons for variety. No more.

And a note on armor: A Basher should NOT be loaded down with heavy armor. He isn't supposed to get hit, so what does he need that armor FOR?

Favorite rhythms. Sometimes it's expedient to ignore a warrior's favorite rhythm, once you know it, but it does give you a guideline for running the style. Rhythm is given as Very High or VH (10-9), High or H (8-7), Moderate or M (6-5), Low or L (4-3), and Very Low or VL (2-1), for Offensive Effort first, and then for Activity Level. For the warriors listed above, the favorite rhythms are:

 
H/VL H/L H/L H/M VH/M VH/L M/L M/VL H/VL H/VL VH/VL M/VL H/VL H/L H/L VH/VL VH/VL VH/VL H/L M/L VH/M VH/VL VH/VL H/L H/VL H/L VH/M H/M.

You'll notice that there is no Offensive Effort lower than Moderate, and no Activity Level higher than Moderate, and that Offensive Effort is usually at least two steps higher than Activity Level. Not always--some of those listed above are only one step apart, and another manager tells me that he has some Bashers with favorite rhythms of Moderate/Moderate. But from the sample I have, it seems that Bashers favor a higher Offensive Effort than Activity Level, often considerably higher. While you may not always want to run a Basher this way, it appears that nature and the Gladiatorial Commission intended them to run very offensively. With a newly entered Basher, this kind of speed is a place to start. Once you get a feel for the warrior in question and for his likely opponents, you can tinker with the numbers for the ideal strategy. But be warned that running so offensively, the average Basher won't be able to keep going for long! Especially, he won't be able to go for long with a heavy weapon (one requiring more ST to handle) and heavy armor. When I think of the Bashers I have seen come out in Plate and struggle to last a single minute at high speed, I could weep. High speed burns endurance. Bashers go out to win fast, or they become easy prey for a slower-paced, more deliberate warrior.

Of course, sometimes you'll run up against a Basher who ignores the stereotype, the so-called "Scum Basher." He differs from most of his kind by having a high endurance which allows his manager to run him slowly and take people by surprise. But this warrior is a freak. I distrust freakish warrior designs as a matter of principle.

There is no evidence to support the hypothesis that warriors have a favorite Kill Desire.

There is no convincing evidence to support the hypothesis that warriors or styles have a favorite attack location. Managers have argued that the nature of the bashing attack lends itself to overhead blows to the head and upper body. However, I suspect that this is one of those intuitive things which turn out not to work, just as one would intuitively expect a Basher to do well with his fists, and he does not. Some managers have pointed out that a Basher aiming at the head tends to end his fight quickly. ANY style striking the head tends to end the fight quickly. (Consistently aiming at the head will increase the chance of killing, which will, in the long run, decrease the chance of your Basher's survival. Managers bloodfeud dedicated killers with hostile intent.) I consider this a case of "Not Proven."

Favorite Tactics. Of the twenty-eight Bashers listed above, only eight had favorite tactics. Two favored the offensive tactic of Decisiveness, and the rest favored the offensive tactic of Bash. It seems reasonable to assume that the offensive tactics of Lunge and Slash are inappropriate for a Basher. (Of course, you can't always count on reason here, but....) There were no defensive tactics favored (granted, this is not a large sampling of warriors), which suggests that they should be used sparingly, if at all--a Basher is a purely offensive style.

Proceeding from the general to the specific, here's a basher who had a very unpromising beginning--

Profile of a Gladiator - Turo the Brick, Lord Protector and Pain in the Rear

Turo, a seven-foot Troll, just graduated from Lin Tirian, my own home arena, at 16-44-2, 94. He's a basher. And I suspect that most other managers would have sent him straight to the Dark Arena.

 
At graduation, he is 11(2)-9-20-6(2)-17(2)-10-17. According to his overview, even after those stat raises, he Is not very bright The more subtle points of the riposte simply escape him, which I could have told anyone right off Stands around making himself a target, which we noticed Cannot carry a lot of weight in weapons and armor (that low ST) Is slow on his feet (Does size have an effect here?) Can do tremendous damage with a blow (mostly SZ, I suspect)

Turo is "naturally adept" with a maul (well, okay, he's probably pulled up a few trees and swung 'em around to bat at pesky people), favors a rhythm of very high/low, and has an innate ability to use the bash tactic. None of this comes as a great surprise--it fits his character. He's aggressive by nature (definitely) and most readily learns initiative skills. (Doesn't that require BRAINS?) Ah, well. I've been running him lately as follows:

 
Mace, backup war hammer, offhand medium shield, plate mail and a full helm. 9 8 7 6 7 8 10 3 2 1 1 1 1 1 8 8 7 8 7 8 10

Which I wouldn't swear is the strategy I sent in for him originally, but it is what he's using. Attacking right arm, protecting head, no tactics. Maybe this was based on something another manager suggested to me.

He graduated with no ratings at all. Yes, really.

Obviously, he's not anybody's ideal warrior, but he's been surprisingly fun to read. And it seems at least possible that if I'd paid more attention to his strategies, issued challenges and avoids, he might have taken a better record out of the arena. He is headed for retirement, obviously. I think he has some idea of going back to his home in the foothills of the Khriatrin Mountains and terrorizing his kin.

And another example of a basher, a much more successful one:

Khora the Small, Lady Protector, Contender for the Throne in Lirin Kiv (ADM 107)

I don't have her graduation overview here, as that was a long time ago. But she started as 15-12-9-17-11-9-11. Now, after years of fighting, maxed on skills and training stats, she is 25-12-9-17-17-13-16. Her record at the present is 94-129-3, and despite doing devastating damage, being incredibly quick and elusive, and having an Advanced Master rating in attack and Masters in all the other skills, she is still not woman enough to take the throne in this smallest of the Advanced Duelmasters regions. Her favorite weapon is the war hammer, her favorite rhythm high offensive effort and very low activity level, which are good favorites. So why isn't she Duelmistress, or as it is called in Lirin Kiv, Champion of the Horn? Because there's an even better basher up there already. Her most serious problem is that low CN, I think. Maybe she should train that up....

Here's their most recent fight, a short one, so I'll give it to you in full--

Phetmolge is 8' tall, right-handed, fights with no armor or helm, carries a war hammer and a large shield, to which he is well suited.

Khora is 5'7" tall, ambidextrous, in leather armor and a helm, carrying a war hammer and an off-hand war hammer, to which she, too, is well-suited.

Khora is running 8 4 7 RA BD no tactics; about Phetmolge we can only guess.

 
Both warriors move with snake-like speed around each other. The weapons lock together in a test of strength. Phetmolge is moving constantly without pause! He sweeps his large shield in a sudden unexpected assault! A spectator exclaims, "Brilliant!" Phetmolge smiles briefly. Khora parries the blow with her war hammer. She disengages her foe's weapon arm and tries to steal the initiative! She makes a lightning-quick backhand smash with her war hammer! Phetmolge is struck in the belly. Khora says admiringly (this is irony), "How much damage can you take, anyway?" (Lots. Lots and lots. More than she can, anyway.) She launches a brilliant attack with her war hammer. Phetmolge stops the blow with his large shield. He sidesteps, trying to throw his opponent off balance. He launches a brilliant attack with his war hammer! Khora is hit on the right hip! It is a tremendous blow! Khora winces, obviously feeling great pain. She mutters a desperate prayer and is stopped by the herald.

She is determined to become top basher in Lirin Kiv and will keep fighting unti she is Inducted into Primus.

-- Jorja, The Middle Way